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MONY
27-02-2016 00:35
 Ето с какво се занимавах докато е студено и съм далече от морето.
"Техническото задание" беше за максимално къс и максимално маневрен харпун за мътно и за дупки. Докато обмислях детайлите /доста бавен и мъчителен процес / ми хрумна еретичната мисъл да изместя ластиците зад дръжката. По този начин успях да намаля дължината с още няколко сантиметра. В крайна сметка се получи харпун, който стърчи само 47см. пред ръката, а в същото време има зарядна дължина колкото стандартна 80-ка. Ето му и данните:
1. Тяло - 80см. 47от които пред дръжката и 27см. зад нея, изработено от тик и бял дъб и импрегнирано с два слоя епоксидна смола и три слоя яхтен лак.
2. Ластици - два чифта 14-ки или по точно е да се каже 4 единични 14-ки, защото ластиците могат да се зареждат един по един, като по този начин се избягват неприятните усещания в ребрата.
3. Стрела 6,5/65см на Салви с резба.
4. Спусък - също на Салви
Това е ........Сега остава и да стреля...... .


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Silent Bob
27-02-2016 01:00
 Интересно ми е как ще стреля това чудо. А как се зарежда ? Опъваш самото въже назад и ластиците отиват напред ? Можеш ли да го покажеш зареден със стрелата че ми стана интересно.
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Silent Bob
27-02-2016 01:02
 И няма ли опасност при изстрел ластиците да те ударят в челото или аз нещо се бъркам .
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stefdive
27-02-2016 06:58
 Зарядна дължина като на 80 см. харпун с 65 см. стрела???

П.П.
Разбрах каво имаш предвид
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nikfish
27-02-2016 10:01
 Така както гледам от снимките - това отпред не са ролки които се въртят . Така ли е наистина ?
Ако не се въртят ще имаш голямо съпротивление на дайнемата.
За маневреност - ще е маневрен , но за стрелбата - трябват тестове.
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deliburan
27-02-2016 10:53
 Поздрави за труда . Сега критиката : 1. ролките отпред са с твърде малък диаметър , 2. ластиците отзад ще е по добре да ги комбинираш по двойки , 3 . въпреки реверсната визия закопчаването на стрелата е на ръкохватката , 4 . стрела 6.5 /65 тежи около 170 грама което е твърде малко, такава къса стрела на тези ластици трябва да е поне 8мм .
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MONY
27-02-2016 11:41
 @Silent Bob: Първо зареждаш дайнемата и след това опъваш ластиците. Самите ластици са дълги 20см., а задния им край е на 40см. от лицето ми. Надявам се, че при евентуално скъсване няма да ме ударят. Не посмях да го зареждам вкъщи, още повече за първи път. Ще го заредя на безопасно място и ще го снимам.

nikfish: Въртят си се ролките. Те всъщност са ос на лагер. Ето ги.


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deliburan: Ролките наистина са малки, но нямаше как да са по-големи. Ластиците защо мислиш, че трябва да са по двойки? Нарочно ги направих така. Зареждам го в ръцете си, без дори да го опирам в гърдите си. За стрелата си прав - точно 160гр. ще има и връх, а евентуално и тризъбец. Тази беше единствената на пазара с тази дължина. Ако се наложи ще скъсявам по-дебела, но това след като го потопя под вода. Засега е мокрен само във ваната. Мерси и за поздравленията и за критиките, ще ги мисля.
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Yavorsub
27-02-2016 14:42
 Много интересна концепция ! Има какво още да се доразработи и пипне, но наистина за да е ефективен изстрела ,му ще му трябва много дебела стрела !
Браво за усилията !
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deliburan
27-02-2016 20:55
 @MONY: Доколкото разбрах зареждаш с 5 движения : 1 .тетива , 2-3-4-5 всеки ластик по отделно !? Комбинирайки ластиците по двойки , както са на всички харпуни ще зареждаш с 3 движения . Или дори с 2 , ако натягаш първият чифт директно с тетивата ( чифт 14мм не е чак толкова серт) и последващо дозареждане на втория чифт.
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Yavorsub
27-02-2016 22:28
 @MONY: Сега като то гледам и си спомням на Владо акулата моделите и този твоя може да се тунингова по техния тертип.

Местиш механизма в задната част (има място и не пречи ) с една шпилка предаваш до спусъка движението, слагаш нормална по дължина стрела (може пак да е дебела) и имаш .... егаси ебатито !

Даже може една ролка да монтираш в задния край точно пред петата и през нея да наинжеш първия (за зареждане) ластик !
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MONY
28-02-2016 00:10
 @deliburan: Сега разбрах какво имаш впредвид. Така или иначе го зареждам в рамките на 5-6 секунди. Повече ме бави линията на стрелата. Поради късото тяло трябна да навивам шест дължини от долната страна. А най-вероятно и те ще се окажат недостатъчни.
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MONY
28-02-2016 00:23
 @Yavorsub: Местенето на механизма в задната част ще ми е супер трудно, защото нямам никакви машини. Затова и използвах готов спусък, а не правен. Този харпун съм го направил с една бормашина и с един ъглошлайф.

Мерси за идеите!!! Бях планирал един харпун без глава за следващата зима, но сега вече съм твърдо решен да направя "Егаси ебатито". Ще те пиша сценарист
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Yavorsub
28-02-2016 09:51
 @MONY: Аз чакам резултати от балистиката и после ще ръкопляскам ........ заедно със всички останали тук де .И понеже ми хареса идеята ще участвам в скрипта с удоволствие .
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MONY
28-02-2016 15:20
 Няколко снимки в заредено положение. Ластиците трябваше да стигат до "ушичките" пред ролките, но нещо ми се отпусна дайнемата. Предстоят корекции.


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Yavorsub
28-02-2016 15:29
 @MONY: Ако въженцето ти излизайки от главата на харпуна -снимка 2 - отиде директно до щипката за линия и след това връщакйки се "обкрачи" стрелата ще имаш една дължина в повече и няма да има нужда от пина от пред !
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Hyper S
28-02-2016 18:58
 Колкото един механизъм е по-прост , толкова по-добре. Тази твоя идея според мен има добро бъдеще. Поздравления ! Естествено има доста за доработване, но основната идея е много добра.
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Илия
28-02-2016 19:29
 Според мен, има голяма вероятност, при изстрел, въженцата да се измъкнат от ролките, защото ще има измятане на ластиците назад. Лично мен, това измятане към лицето, би ме притеснило доста.
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Yavorsub
28-02-2016 19:51
 @Илия: Дори да стане както казваш (аз лично го виждам почти невъзможно ) проблема се решава на момента с две ограничителни скоби пред ролките !
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deliburan
28-02-2016 20:10
 @MONY: Това ти е другия основен проблем освен леката стрела , в твоя случай шестте дължини са еквивалентни на три при нормален харпун .Спомена още че е топен само във ваната и предполагам че си го балансирал там , очакват те изненади като влезеш в морето.
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MONY
28-02-2016 20:39
 Yavorsub: Мерси!...... Отново.

Hyper S: Благодаря!

Илия: Не си обърнал внимание на тези две "ушички". Аз съм си голямо шубе. Сигурността преди всичко.




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deliburan: На ясно съм с разликите между солена и сладка вода. Всякакъв вид балансиране и тестове предстоят. Както и евентуални смени на стрели и ластици.
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